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“Therefore will the Lord wait, that He may be gracious unto you” (Isa. 30:18).

  Waiting upon the Father is not a matter of longsuffering, but of expectant faith—quiet, restful, confident dependence upon One who is fully trusted. Often the God of circumstances must teach this waiting by placing us in situations that offer no other alternative.

When the testing comes, does our faith prove true? Does our confidence in the Father become shaken and our hope prove uncertain? When the clouds have gathered and the thunder rolls and the lightning stabs the darkness and the roar of the storm is in our ears, can we keep our eyes and thoughts off the tempest and continue in the quiet and peace of the Father’s presence?

When the enemy of right and wrong has thrown down the gauntlet and is trampling ruthlessly upon that which affects the honor of our Lord, and when he seems about to bring ruin upon that which our Father has purposed, can we refrain from rushing in to strive with him, and wait for Him ‘in quietness and confidence,’ with a true sense both of our weakness and of His faithfulness and strength? When we have no word from the Lord except to wait and everything seems to be at a standstill, does the certainty of hope remain undimmed?

When you are in faith you will find that the Lord Jesus does not remove the pressure from off you until you are asleep in it, until you are able to take it quietly. You learn His grace first, and then His mercy.

Faith possesses all things, and hope stretches on to the fulness of the possession, yet in no restless mood, for patience sits by the side of hope in the believer’s soul, and teaches him to wait for the glory of his Father. ‘If we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.’ (Rom. 8:25).

  “I waited patiently for the Lord, and He inclined unto me” (Ps. 40:11)

Our calendar and God’s calendar never quite match up.

God bless from

Remember Bill Warneke in prayer, severe neck pain, chronic depression, the beginnings of Parkinson’s and extreme denial.

Pray for Little Danny, 5 year old with Leukemia, the most optimistic kid you’ll ever meet.

Baby Eli is doing much better.

Remember our salvation list. Cristina B and her husband Oscar. Barbara D and Mona R. Norma Perales and her husband Rick and her adult son Rick Jr.

Pray for Danny F, a prodigal who needs to come back to the Lord. After his divorce he went a little nuts.

Remember Steve H, strength and encouragement.

Please continue to pray for my wife Sharon that her back problems will get better without surgery.

Pray for Aueekea, just met her, she’s from Hawaii, she is one step from homeless, a victim mentality that’s going to get her hurt and very codependent.

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The Jesus Narrative (part three)


Jesus was now very active in His public ministry. He was traveling through the villages and towns proclaiming that the kingdom of God was at hand and His ministry was authenticated by the many miracles He performed. He had chosen His 12 disciples and they traveled with Him. They were back in Galilee and crowds were increasingly following him from all over Israel and neighboring countries

Luke 6:17-19

No one had ever seen a man do the miracles He did or heard the words He spoke. Yet busy as He was He always had time to stop and care for that one person with a special need. The crowd was not just a faceless mob to Him. They were individuals in whom He had a personal interest. They were like sheep without a shepherd and He had come to be their Shepherd.

Luke 7:11

Jesus left Capernaum where He had healed a centurion’s servant from a distance, without even seeing him. Now He and his disciples traveled on down to Nain, a town about 25 miles southwest of Capernaum.

Luke 7:12

Try to imagine the scene. Jesus and His disciples were approaching the town gate, followed by a large, excited crowd. Suddenly a hush fell on the crowd. There was a funeral procession coming out of the town. A litter with a dead body on it was being carried out to the cemetery. A weeping mother, dressed in widow’s clothes followed. She was accompanied by a large crowd of friends mourning with her. This was a noisy crowd in a different way. They were wailing, weeping and some had torn their clothes to indicate their grief.

The dead man was the only son of his mother and she was a widow. (NIV)

This poignant sentence tells a sad story. This woman had lost her husband, now her son was gone. In that day, parents depended upon their children to care for them in their old age. The death of her only son meant that she would not only be lonely but possibly destitute. Now the Mosaic Law provided for widows, orphans and the poor. They could glean in the fields after the reapers and gather their grain and fruit. There was also a special tithe taken every third year to be distributed to the poor. God warned his people that they were never to oppress or exploit the poor or the widows and orphans.

Ex. 22:22-23 (NIV) Do not take advantage of a widow or an orphan. If you do and they cry out to me, I will certainly hear their cry.

Deuteronomy 10:18 (NIV) He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow.

It was the responsibility of the community to care for the poor in that day. Jewish people today still care for their own to a greater extent than other ethnic groups usually do.

Now Jesus knew all this. He could have just passed by and assumed that this town would rally around the widow and see that she at least had food and clothes.

Luke 7:13

When the Lord saw her, His heart went out to her and He said, “Do not cry.” (NIV)

Cannot you picture Him? He leaves His followers, walks up to her and with tenderness and compassion says just two words. They would have been unrealistic and unkind coming from anyone else. She had plenty to cry about. To me there is something very comforting in knowing that when I am in pain, God’s heart goes out to me. He is the One who really feels my pain, He cares for me and wants to comfort me. He is not a cold, distant, helpless deity. He is a loving, compassionate Father.

Psalm 103:13

As a father has compassion on his children, so the Lord has compassion on those who fear Him. (NIV)

In 2 Corinthians 1:4-5 He is called the “Father of mercies” and the “God of all comfort.”

But that is not all Jesus said and did. Now He walked over to the litter and touched it. The pallbearers stopped. Imagine what they must have thought. Touching the dead made a person ceremonially unclean. Here was a rabbi, a teacher, doing it. But that still was not all. Jesus then spoke directly to the dead man.

“Young man, I say to you, get up” (NIV)

Jesus stood and faced our worst enemy, Death. And with the ring of divine authority He exercised His power over it. This is the first time He raised a person from the dead. In each of the three recorded cases, He spoke to the corpse. And the dead heard His voice and obeyed. John 5:28.

Luke 7:15

The dead man sat up and began to talk, and Jesus gave him back to his mother. (NIV)

Cannot you sense the gentleness, the understanding, the personal interest in her that these words reveal? Can you imagine the joy Jesus felt being able to do this for her. I wonder if we realize what it meant to Him to reverse in a tangible way, the curse which is the result of human sin. I think He smiled as He saw her tears turn to unbelievable joy. Her son was alive. She would not be left alone. She would see her grandchildren, her future was secure.

What impact did this miracle have on the crowd?

Luke 7:16-17

They were filled with awe, reverence, fear of God. They praised God. (NIV)

Surely they were reminded of the dead child that Elisha raised from the dead over 800 years before in the town of Shunem which was just on the other side of the hill from Nain. But did they actually realize that God really had come and was living among them? They may have remembered the Scripture:

Isaiah 35:4-6 (NIV) Be strong, do not fear; your God will come…He will come to save you. Then will the eyes of the blind be opened and ears of the deaf unstopped. Then will the lame leap like a deer, and the mute tongue shout for joy.

This was what the Messiah would do when He came. And that was exactly what Jesus was doing! This miracle also illustrated some important truths. We have seen that God is deeply concerned with our grief and pain. Jesus actively did what He had the power to do to alleviate this woman’s suffering. In this he modeled for us what we are supposed to do to relieve human suffering today.

All around us are people who are hurting, without the essentials to sustain life, lonely, or disabled. Some have suffered broken marriages, or estranged children. Some are homeless, jobless, hopeless, and lost. There is something each of us can do. It may be very small in comparison to their degree of need, but that is not the issue. We can bring a meal, make a visit, bring clothes, blankets, listen to their troubles, pray with them and for them. We can counsel and support women in crisis pregnancies. We can give money so that ministries like Pacific Garden Mission in Chicago, the largest men’s shelter in the world or The Mission Shelter program or Veterans Cause who minister to the down and out so they can continue their work. We can share the Gospel. Remember we are Christ’s Body on earth. He works through us to show God’s love and concern.

We all can and must do something. We cannot close our eyes and pretend there is no one out there that needs our help.

We find the next effect of this miracle in the following verses. John the Baptist had been in prison for quite a long while and he may have expected that Jesus coming would have different results. In his uncertainty he sent directly to Jesus.

Luke 7:18-23

The purpose of miracles in the Bible is always to accredit the messenger and the message. Jesus was saying to John:

Remember the prophecies in Is. 35 and 61, see what I am doing, and put it all together.

Thus he reassured John that He was the Messiah.

But I believe this miracle also illustrated visibly what the Lord Jesus came to accomplish by His death on the cross and His resurrection.

2 Timothy 1:9-10

This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time, but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed (abolished) death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel. (NIV)

How did death become a part of human existence. It was not part of God’s original design. Adam and Eve were created to live forever. In that beautiful garden God gave them every provision and perfect freedom to enjoy each other, to enjoy life and to enjoy their Creator. There was one prohibition.

Do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. In the day you eat of it you will surely die. (NIV)

We all know the story. Satan tempted them and they ate the fruit and experienced spiritual death immediately, which is separation from God. We know this because for the first time they were afraid and hid from Him when He came to walk with them in the Garden. Then their bodies began to die and death has been the expectation and experience of every human being since. The penalty for sin is death, both physical and spiritual. Since were each born with a sinful nature, we all sin and we all will die unless the Lord returns first and takes us home.

God commanded an approach to him that constantly reminded his people of that truth. Israel could never worship God without a blood sacrifice. When they sacrificed a lamb, goat or bull, they were offering a substitute to die for their sins in their place. When Jesus began His public ministry it was John who identified him as the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.

He was the only substitute God would accept. When Jesus hung on that cross He took the full penalty for our sin in His own person. When he cried out, My God, why have you forsaken me? It meant he experienced spiritual death, which is separation from God. And of course, He died physically. But then he rose from the dead. If there was even one sin that could not be forgiven by the sacrifice of Christ, He would still be in the grave. His resurrection proved that every sin ever committed since the world began has been paid for in full.

Thank God for the Gift of His Son, our Savior and Risen Lord.

God bless from

Remember our Salvation list,

Barbara D, Mona R, Norma Perales, Rick Sr. and Rick Jr.

Pray for Steve H, encouragement and strength

Ricky R, Still sober

Sherry M, on a long streak of behaving, I think because I’m checking on her more.

Eli, is gaining weight…

Caliste and Stephanie, physically are doing as well as respected, but both are dealing with emotional aspects of the possible ticking time bomb with the brain tumors.

Remember Paul K, a little down about possible health issues and his mom at 92 years is beginning to have issues with dementia.

Bill Warneke, chronic neck pain, depression and the beginnings of Parkinson’s (maybe, he refuses to go in and get checked, but all the signs are there)

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1 : to induct (a person) into a permanent office with a religious rite

especially : to ordain to the office of bishop

2a : to make or declare sacred

especially : to devote irrevocably to the worship of God by a solemn ceremony

consecrate a church

b : to effect the liturgical transubstantiation of (eucharistic bread and wine)

c : to devote to a purpose with or as if with deep solemnity or dedication

3 : to make inviolable or venerable (Webster’s Dictionary).

Philippians 3:12 (Phi) …I keep going on, trying to grasp the purpose for which Christ Jesus grasped me.

Matthew 13:44 (Phi) “The kingdom of heaven is like some treasure which has been buried in a field. A man finds it and buries it again, and goes off overjoyed to sell all his possessions to buy himself that field.”

2 Corinthians 4:7 (KJV) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels…

Seized By God

1 Corinthians 6:20 (Jer) You are not your own property; you have been bought and paid for. That is why you should use your body for the glory of God.

1 Peter 1:18-19 (Phi) For you must realize that you have been ransomed by your futile way of living passed on to you by your traditions, but not by any money payment of this passing world. No, the price was in fact the life-blood of Christ, the unblemished and unstained lamb of sacrifice.

Romans 12:1 (TEB) So then, my brothers, because of God’s great mercy to us, I make this appeal to you: Offer yourselves as a living sacrifice to God, dedicated to his service and pleasing to him. This is the true worship that you should offer.

Available Vessels

John 1:12-13 (NAS) But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born not of blood, nor or the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

F.B. Meyer: “The act of consecration is to recognize Christ’s ownership and to accept it; and to say to Him, with the whole heart, Lord, I am Yours by right, and I wish to be Yours by choice.”

1 Thessalonians 4:3,4 (NKJ) For this is the will of God, your sanctification, that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you show how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor.

2 Timothy 2:21 (RSV) If anyone purifies himself from what is ignoble, then he will be a vessel for noble use, consecrated and useful to the Master of the house, ready for any good work.

Ordinary Jars In The Hands Of Jesus

John 2:5-10 (Wey) His mother said to the attendants, “Whatever he tells you to do, do it.” Now there were six stone jars standing there (in accordance with the Jewish regulations for purification), each large enough to hold twenty gallons or more. Jesus said to the attendants, “Fill the jars with water.” Then He said, “Now, take some out.” Then… [the banquet-master] called to the bridegroom and said to him, “… You have kept the good wine till now.”

God’s Will To Form Us Into Vessels Worthy Of Future Glory

Ephesians 2:10 (NIV) For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Romans 6:13 (Phi) But, like men rescued from certain death, put yourselves in God’s hands as weapons of good for his own purposes.

Titus 3:5,6 (Phi) He saved us in his mercy–not by virtue of any moral achievement of ours, but by the cleansing power of a new birth and the renewal of the Holy Spirit which he poured upon us through Jesus Christ our Savior.

Philippians 3:12(NIV) Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me.

Philippians 3:12 (NAS) …but I press on in order that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus.

Philippians 2:5-7 (Jer) In your minds you must be the same as Christ Jesus; His state was divine, yet he did not cling to his equality with God but emptied himself to assume the condition of a slave….

Malachi 3:2-3 (NAS) “…For He is like a refiner’s fire and like fullers’ soap. And He will sit as a smelter and purifier of silver, and He will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, so that He may present to the Lord offerings in righteousness.”

Apprentice Priests…

Exodus 29:44 (NIV) “So I will consecrate the Tent of Meeting and the altar and will consecrate Aaron and his sons to serve me as priests.”

Hebrews 9:21 (NAS) And in the same way, he sprinkled both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry with the blood.

Exodus 28:41 (NAS) And you shall anoint them and ordain them and consecrate them, that they may serve me as priests.

Consecration Is God’s Prerogative, Not Man’s

2 Chronicles 13:9-10 (NIV) …Whoever comes to consecrate himself… may become a priest of what are not gods. As for us, the Lord is our God, and we have not forsaken him. The priests who serve the Lord are sons of Aaron…

E.W. Bullinger: “Thus it is now that the Holy Spirit consecrates all who are priests unto God. It is a Divine act, an act of sovereign grace. A grand reality when done for the sinner by God the Holy Ghost but a worthless vanity when presumptuously done by a mortal man.”

2 Chronicles 13:9-10 (GLT) …Whoever comes to consecrate himself … even he becomes a priest to no gods.

2 Corinthians 1:21 (Phi) It is he who has consecrated us to this special work, he who has given us the living guarantee of the Spirit in our hearts.

Defiled Vessels

Daniel 5:22-23 (NEB) But you, his son, Belshazzar, did not humble your heart, although you knew all this. You have set yourself up against the Lord of heaven. The vessels of his temple have been brought to your table…

Daniel 5:30 (NEB) That very night Belshazzar, king of the Chaldeans, was slain.

Romans 9:22-23 (RSV) What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power has endured with much patience the vessels of wrath made for destruction in order to make known the riches of his glory for the vessels of mercy which he prepared beforehand for glory.

Isaiah 52:11 (NAS) Depart, depart, go out from there, touch nothing unclean; go out of the midst of her purify yourselves, you who carry the vessels of the Lord.

From Desecration… To Consecration

Romans 6:19 (TEB) …At one time you surrendered yourselves entirely as slaves to impurity and wickedness, for wicked purposes. In the same way you must now surrender yourselves entirely as slaves of righteousness, for holy purposes.

Matthew 3:11 (NIV) “…He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.”

Deuteronomy 11:22-23 (NIV) “If you carefully observe all these commands I am giving you to follow–to love the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways and hold fast to him–then the Lord will drive out all these nations before you, and you will dispossess nations larger and stronger than you.”

Mark 11:15 (NIV) Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there.

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 (NKJ) Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

2 Chronicles 7:16 (NAS) “For now I have chosen and consecrated this house that My Name may be there forever, and My eyes and My heart will be there perpetually.”

Exodus 29:43 (NAS) And I will meet there with the sons of Israel, and it shall be consecrated by my glory.

2 Chronicles 7:3 (NIV) …and the glory of the Lord filled the temple.

Beholding His Glory

2 Corinthians 3:18 (TEB) All of us, then, reflect the glory of the Lord with uncovered faces; and that same glory, coming from the Lord who is the Spirit, transforms us into his very likeness, in an ever greater degree of glory.

2 Chronicles 29:31 (NAS)…”Now that you have consecrated yourselves to the Lord, come near and bring sacrifices and thank offerings to the house of the Lord.”

Consecrated For The Wedding

Zephaniah 1:7 (NIV) Be silent before the Sovereign Lord for the day of the Lord is near. The Lord has prepared a sacrifice; he has consecrated those he has invited.

Revelation 19:7,8 (TEB) Let us rejoice and be glad; let us praise his greatness. For the time has come for the wedding of the Lamb, and his bride has prepared herself for it. She has been given shining linen to dress herself with…

Leviticus 16:32 (KJV) And the priest, whom he shall anoint, and whom he shall consecrate to minister in the priest’s office in his father’s stead, shall make the atonement, and shall put on the linen clothes, even the holy garments…

Matthew 22:12-14 (RSV) “My friend,” said the king [after imploring people to come…], “how do you come to be here without your wedding clothes?” He had nothing to say. The king then said to his attendants, “Bind him hand and foot; turn him out into the dark, the place of wailing and grinding of teeth.” For though many are invited, few are chosen.

The Sacrifice Of Obedience

1 Kings 19:19-21 (NIV) So Elijah went from there and found Elisha son of Shaphat. He was ploughing with twelve yoke of oxen, and he himself was driving the twelfth pair. Elijah went up to him and threw his cloak around him. Elisha then left his oxen and ran after Elijah. “Let me kiss my father and mother good-bye,” he said, “and then I will come with you.” “Go back,” Elijah replied. “What have I done to you?” So Elisha left him and went back. He took his yoke of oxen and slaughtered them. He burned the ploughing equipment to cook the meat and gave it to the people, and they ate. Then he set out to follow Elijah and became his attendant.

F.B. Meyer: “Consecration is only possible when we give up our will about everything.”

Luke 14:26 (NIV) “If any man comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life–he cannot be my disciple.”

Luke 9:62 (Phi) But Jesus told him, “Anyone who puts his hand to the plough and then looks behind him is useless for the kingdom of God.”

Luke 14:33 (TEB) “In the same way,” concluded Jesus, “none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up everything he has.”

Oswald Chambers: “We… have to deliberately determine to be interested only in which God is interested.”

Clay… Ready For Change

Hebrews 10:20,22 (NKJ) By a new and living way which he consecrated for us…. let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.

James 4:8 (NIV) Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double minded.

Oswald Chambers: “Consecration means the continual separating of myself… We cannot consecrate once and for all. Am I continually separating myself to consider God every day of my life?”

Joel 2:13-17 (NAS) Rend your hearts and not your garments. Now return to the Lord your God, for he is gracious and compassionate… Blow a trumpet in Zion, consecrate a fast, proclaim a solemn assembly, gather the people, sanctify the elders… Let the priests, the Lord’s ministers weep between the porch and the altar.

Romans 13:13-14 (Phi) Let us therefore fling away the things that men do in the dark, let us arm ourselves for the fight of the day! Let us live cleanly, as in the daylight, not in the delights of getting drunk or playing with sex, nor yet in quarreling or jealousies. Let us be Christ’s men from head to foot, and give no chances to the flesh to have its fling.

God bless from

Remember our Salvation list,

Barbara D, Mona R, Norma Perales, Rick Sr. and Rick Jr.

Pray for Steve H, encouragement and strength

Ricky R, Still sober

Sherry M, on a long streak of behaving, I think because I’m checking on her more.

Eli, is gaining weight…

Caliste and Stephanie, physically are doing as well as respected, but both are dealing with emotional aspects of the possible ticking time bomb with the brain tumors.

Remember Paul K, a little down about possible health issues and his mom at 92 years is beginning to have issues with dementia.

Bill Warneke, chronic neck pain, depression and the beginnings of Parkinson’s (maybe)


May 28, 2019

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 ROMANS 6:11 So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.





HEB 6:12 …who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised.


1 PETER 5:10 And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.







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Pray for Sherrie J, has lived life as a high profile celebrity, well she has crashed and burned for the last time, all her contracts are cancelled. Pray for her salvation.

Pray for Steve P, motocross accident today, lost a spleen and has a concussion.

Remember Caliste and Stephanie, both fine Christian women, inoperable brain tumors, Caliste is dealing better with it than Stephanie.

Jeremy b, pray for his 9 year old son, just diagnosed with Leukemia.

Remember Bill Warneke, depression, degenerative disks in his neck and the beginnings of Parkinson’s.

Pray for Eli, Olivia’s month old son, he needs to gain more weight.

Pray for Steve H, strength, encouragement, a blessing.

Remember pastor Paul, I’m having lunch with him tomorrow, he’s a bit overwhelmed over his medical situation.

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When considering any question involving eschatology (the study of end times), it is important to remember that almost all Christians agree on these three things:

1) There is coming a time of great tribulation such as the world has never seen,

2) After the Tribulation, Christ will return to establish His kingdom on earth,

3) There will be a Rapture—a “catching away” from mortality to immortality—for believers as described in John 14:1-3, 1 Corinthians 15:51-52, and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. The only question regards the timing of the Rapture: when will it occur in relation to the Tribulation and the Second Coming?

There are primarily three theories about the timing of the Rapture: the belief that the Rapture will occur before the Tribulation begins (pretribulationism), the belief that the Rapture will occur at the midpoint of the Tribulation (midtribulationism), and the belief that the Rapture will occur at the end of the Tribulation (posttribulationism). This article deals specifically with the posttribulational view.

Posttribulationism teaches that the Rapture occurs at the end, or near the end, of the Tribulation. At that time, the church will meet Christ in the air and then return to earth for the commencement of Christ’s Kingdom on earth. In other words, the Rapture and Christ’s Second Coming (to set up His Kingdom) happen almost simultaneously. According to this view, the church goes through the entire seven-year Tribulation. Roman Catholicism, Greek Orthodoxy, and many Protestant denominations espouse a posttribulational view of the Rapture.

One strength of posttribulationism is that Jesus, in His extended discourse on the end times, says He will return after a “great tribulation” (Matthew 24:21, 29). Also, the book of Revelation, with all its various prophecies, mentions only one coming of the Lord—and that occurs after the Tribulation (Revelation 19-20). Passages such as Revelation 13:7 and 20:9 also lend support to posttribulationism in that there will obviously be saints in the Tribulation. Also, the resurrection of the dead in Revelation 20:5 is called “the first resurrection.” Posttribulationists assert that, since this “first” resurrection takes place after the Tribulation, the resurrection associated with the Rapture in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 cannot occur until then.

Posttribulationists also point out that, historically, God’s people have experienced times of intense persecution and trial. Therefore, they say, it should not be surprising that the church also experiences the Great Tribulation of the end times. In relation to this, the posttribulational view distinguishes “Satan’s wrath” (or “man’s wrath”) from “God’s wrath” in the book of Revelation. Satan’s wrath is directed against the saints, and God allows it as a means of purifying His faithful. On the other hand, God’s wrath is poured out on the Antichrist and his godless kingdom, and God will protect His people from that punishment.

One weakness of posttribulationism is the clear teaching of Scripture that those who are in Christ are not under condemnation and will never experience the wrath of God (Romans 8:1). While some judgments during the Tribulation specifically target the unsaved, many other judgments, such as the earthquakes, falling stars, and famines, will affect the saved and unsaved equally. Thus, if believers go through the Tribulation, they will experience the wrath of God, in contradiction of Romans 8:1.

Posttribulationists also face a difficulty in explaining the absence of the word church in all biblical passages related to the tribulation. Even in Revelation 4 — 21, the lengthiest description of the tribulation in all of Scripture, the word church never appears. Posttribulationists must assume that the word saints in Revelation 4 — 21 means the church, although a different Greek word is used.

And a final weakness of the posttribulational view is shared by the other two theories: namely, the Bible does not give an explicit timeline concerning future events. Scripture does not expressly teach one view over another, and that is why we have diversity of opinion concerning the end times and some variety on how the related prophecies should be harmonized.

Well that’s it for end time theory, well for now.

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BIBLE QUIZ- well we are getting lots of answers some kind of close, so we are going to give some more clues. so here was the question; (plus a little more information) The Old Scofield Bible received the most criticism over one study note; what was that note?  So here’s another clue. So it was in the New Testament and in the Gospel of John. And here’s our second clue, one you need to have a copy of the old Scofield bible, and it’s in the first chapter of the gospel of John. It’s not the scripture it’s the study note that drew a lot of criticism. ANSWER;

Scofield worked his dispensationalism into every text he could, promoting an unhealthy understanding of the gospel. Consider his note on John 1:17 that teaches salvation was not by grace prior to Christ:

As a dispensation, grace begins with the death and resurrection of Christ. The point of testing is no longer legal obedience as the condition of salvation, but acceptance or rejection of Christ, with good works as a fruit of salvation.

The joke went something like this: You read the English Bible from left to right, the Hebrew Bible from right to left, and the Scofield Bible from the bottom up. In other words, the notes controlled the text. While the joke is funny to a degree, the results are far from humorous. For most of the twentieth century, if you were to walk into a bookstore to purchase a study Bible, you would be hard pressed to find any other option than the Scofield Bible, UNTIL 1985. 


Pray for Haley, suffering from post-surgery problems, she had to be readmitted today

Pray for Ronny Y, 32 years sober, lost her daughter in a car accident and almost gave in. talked to her today and she says she’s ok.

Pray for Ricky R, still sober,

Remember Bill Warneke, chronic depression, chronic neck pain, beginnings of Parkinson’s.

Remember Caliste and Stephanie, not operable brain tumors. Pray for them to not be fearful and divine healing.

Remember Eli, Olivia’s baby, slowly gaining weight.

Salvation for Barbara D, Mona R, the Perales family, Norma, Rick Sr, and adult son Rick Jr.


May 23, 2019


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Midtribulationism teaches that the rapture occurs at the midpoint of the tribulation. At that time, the seventh trumpet sounds (Revelation 11:15), the church will meet Christ in the air, and then the bowl judgments are poured upon the earth (Revelation 15—16) in a time known as the great tribulation. In other words, the rapture and Christ’s second coming (to set up His kingdom) are separated by a period of three and a half years. According to this view, the church goes through the first half of the tribulation but is spared the worst of the tribulation in the last three and a half years. Very close to midtribulationism is the belief in a “pre-wrath” rapture, i.e., a belief that the church is caught up to heaven before the “great day of … wrath” comes (Revelation 6:17).

In support of their view, midtribulationists point to the chronology given in 2 Thessalonians 2:1–3. The order of events is as follows: 1) apostasy, 2) the revelation of the Antichrist, and 3) the day of Christ. The midtribulational view teaches that the Antichrist will not be decisively revealed until “the abomination that causes desolation” (Matthew 24:15), which occurs at the midpoint of the tribulation (Daniel 9:27). Midtribulationists use Daniel 7:25, which says the Antichrist will have power over the “saints” for three and a half years, to bolster their point—they assume this is the first half of the tribulation and that the saints spoken of are the church. Also, they interpret “the day of Christ” as the rapture; therefore, the church will not be caught up to heaven until after the Antichrist is revealed.

Another foundational teaching of midtribulationism is that the trumpet of 1 Corinthians 15:52 is the same trumpet mentioned in Revelation 11:15. The trumpet of Revelation 11 is the final in a series of trumpets; therefore, it makes sense that it would be “the last trumpet” of 1 Corinthians 15. This logic fails, however, in view of the trumpets’ objectives. The trumpet that sounds at the rapture is “the trumpet call of God” (1 Thessalonians 4:16), but the one in Revelation 11 is a harbinger of judgment. One trumpet is a call of grace to God’s elect; the other is a pronouncement of doom on the wicked. Further, the seventh trumpet in Revelation is not the “last” trumpet chronologically—Matthew 24:31 speaks of a later trumpet that sounds at the commencement of Christ’s kingdom.

First Thessalonians 5:9 says that the church has not been appointed “to suffer wrath but to receive salvation.” This would seem to indicate that believers will not experience the tribulation. However, midtribulationism interprets “wrath” as only referring to the second half of the tribulation—specifically, the bowl judgments. Limiting the word in such a way seems unwarranted, however. Surely the terrible judgments contained in the seals and trumpets—including famine, poisoned rivers, a darkened moon, bloodshed, earthquakes, and torment—could also be considered the wrath of God.

Midtribulationism places the rapture in Revelation 11, prior to the start of the great tribulation. There are two problems with this placement in the chronology of Revelation. First, the only occurrence of the term “great tribulation” in the entire book of Revelation is in 7:14, before the opening of the seventh seal. Second, the only reference to a “great day of wrath” is in Revelation 6:17, during the events of the sixth seal. Both of these references come too early for a midtribulational rapture, which is timed according to the seventh trumpet.

And a final weakness of the midtribulational view is shared by the other two theories: namely, the Bible does not give an explicit timeline concerning future events. Scripture does not expressly teach one view over another, and that is why we have diversity of opinion concerning the end times and some variety on how the related prophecies should be harmonized.

Again, long list vs. short list. Theology of when the rapture happens sees that both views have pros and cons.

One of my theology professors said he was a “Panmillenialist” meaning it will all work out in God’s timing.

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Well we had some interesting answers to our bible give away. but not yet. so here was the question; (plus a little more information) The Old Scofield Bible received the most criticism over one study note; what was that note? So it was in the New Testament and in the Gospel of John. So quiz fans, take another crack at it. if nobody gets it then tomorrow we will give another clue. (and as I said, google can’t help you on this).

Pray for Haley, suffering from post surgery problems

Pray for Ronny Y, 32 years sober, lost her daughter in a car accident and almost gave in.

Pray for Ricky R, still sober,

Remember Bill Warneke, chronic depression, chronic neck pain, beginnings of Parkinson’s.

Remember Caliste and Stephanie, not operable brain tumors. Pray for them to not be fearful and divine healing.

Remember Eli, Olivia’s baby, slowly gaining weight.


May 22, 2019

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We have often talked about having a short list and a long list. The short list is the ideas (theology) we will fight over and take a beating. The long list is theology that can have different facets or positions and we should be full of grace on these positions. One of the items on the long list is when will the rapture happen. (not if).

For many years I was a mid-tribulation guy. But I’ve spent the last two years really studying this position more intently and preaching on it more often and have switched camps to the pretribulation position.

So let’s get started.

In eschatology, it is important to remember that almost all Christians agree on these three things: 1) there is coming a time of great tribulation such as the world has never seen, 2) after the Tribulation, Christ will return to establish His kingdom on earth, and, 3) there will be a Rapture—a translation from mortality to immortality—for believers (John 14:1-3;1 Corinthians 15:51-52; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17). The question is when does the Rapture occur in relation to the Tribulation and the Second Coming of Christ?

Through the years three main theories have emerged concerning the timing of the Rapture: pretribulationism (the belief that the Rapture will occur before the Tribulation begins), midtribulationism (the belief that the Rapture will occur at the midpoint of the Tribulation), and posttribulationism (the belief that the Rapture will occur at the end of the Tribulation). This article deals specifically with the pretribulational view.

Pretribulationism teaches that the Rapture occurs before the Tribulation starts. At that time, the church will meet Christ in the air, and then sometime after that the Antichrist is revealed and the Tribulation begins. In other words, the Rapture and Christ’s Second Coming (to set up His kingdom) are separated by at least seven years. According to this view, the church does not experience any of the Tribulation.

Scripturally, the pretribulational view has much to commend it. For example, the church is not appointed to wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:9-10, 5:9), and believers will not be overtaken by the Day of the Lord (1 Thessalonians 5:1-9). The church of Philadelphia was promised to be kept from “the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world” (Revelation 3:10). Note that the promise is not preservation through the trial but deliverance from the hour, that is, from the time period of the trial.

Pretribulationism also finds support in what is not found in Scripture. The word “church” appears nineteen times in the first three chapters of Revelation, but, significantly, the word is not used again until chapter 22. In other words, in the entire lengthy description of the Tribulation in Revelation, the word church is noticeably absent. In fact, the Bible never uses the word “church” in a passage relating to the Tribulation.

Pretribulationism is the only theory which clearly maintains the distinction between Israel and the church and God’s separate plans for each. The seventy “sevens” of Daniel 9:24 are decreed upon Daniel’s people (the Jews) and Daniel’s holy city (Jerusalem). This prophecy makes it plain that the seventieth week (the Tribulation) is a time of purging and restoration for Israel and Jerusalem, not for the church.

Also, pretribulationism has historical support. From John 21:22-23, it would seem that the early church viewed Christ’s return as imminent, that He could return at any moment. Otherwise, the rumor would not have persisted that Jesus would return within John’s lifetime. Imminence, which is incompatible with the other two Rapture theories, is a key tenet of pretribulationism.

And the pretribulational view seems to be the most in keeping with God’s character and His desire to deliver the righteous from the judgment of the world. Biblical examples of God’s salvation include Noah, who was delivered from the worldwide flood; Lot, who was delivered from Sodom; and Rahab, who was delivered from Jericho (2 Peter 2:6-9).

One perceived weakness of pretribulationism is its relatively recent development as a church doctrine, not having been formulated in detail until the early 1800s. Another weakness is that pretribulationism splits the return of Jesus Christ into two “phases”—the Rapture and the Second Coming—whereas the Bible does not clearly delineate any such phases.

Another difficulty facing the pretribulational view is the fact that there will obviously be saints in the Tribulation (Revelation 13:7, 20:9). Pretribulationists answer this by distinguishing the saints of the Old Testament and the saints of the Tribulation from the church of the New Testament. Believers alive at the Rapture will be removed before the Tribulation, but there will be those who will come to Christ during the Tribulation.

Some point to Jesus’ statement in John 6:40 as posing a difficulty to pretribulationism: “My Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” Jesus promises believers a resurrection “at the last day,” but the pretribulational model has believers being raised at the rapture, at least seven years before the Christ’s second coming. The answer to this involves a general use of the word day—the end times, called “the last day,” will span the entire time from the rapture to the second coming. Also, the rapture will mark the end of the church age and thus is “the last day” of this dispensation.

And a final weakness of the pretribulational view is shared by the other two theories: namely, the Bible does not give an explicit timeline concerning future events. Scripture does not expressly teach one view over another, and that is why we have a diversity of opinion concerning the end times and some variety on how the related prophecies should be harmonized.

Tomorrow the midtribulations position.

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OK, we have a bible study question that is a real stumper, if you win you get a free NIV “every man’s study bible” tu tone (non leather). No shipping, entirely free.

So here’s the question; in the Old Scofield Bible, what is considered the most controversial note in the New Testament Section. And why. Good luck with this and google won’t help. (I don’t think). we will give new clues each day if no one can figure it out. and yes this probably the hardest question we’ve ever had.

Remember Bill Warneke in prayer, beginning stages of Parkinson’s, chronic depression and neck pain.

Remember Olivia and baby. Especially the baby. Eli.

Praise from Matt and Rosie, there house sold.

Ricky R, still sober

Pray for Stephan H, strength, encouragement

Paul K, so far so good, VA is still saying not cancer on/in his pancreas.

Remember Caliste Burt and Stephanie Taylor, inoperable brain tumors. Pray for divine healing and living with no fear.


May 21, 2019

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It’s fascinating when engineers strategically place explosives and then set them off so that an old skyscraper collapses into a heap of rubble. With the Christian faith, you only have to set the explosives at one point: Blow up the resurrection of Jesus and the whole thing comes tumbling down.

That’s what the apostle Paul said. If you can blow up this one thing, you totally destroy Christianity. That foundation is the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. Paul said, “If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, and your faith also is vain…. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins” (1 Cor. 15:14, 17).

What evidence is there for the resurrection of Jesus? Books have been written on this, so I can only be sketchy. First, there was the fact of the empty tomb. If Jesus’ tomb had not been empty, when the disciples began proclaiming his resurrection from the dead, their enemies would have simply marched to the tomb, produced the body, and the disciples would have been laughed out of town.

There are several ways to account for the empty tomb. Jesus’ enemies could have stolen the body. But they had no motive to do so. It was to their advantage to leave the body where it was, which is why they had Pilate post the Roman guard and seal the tomb.

Another possibility is that the Roman guards stole the body. But again, they had no motive to do so. They weren’t concerned about this Jewish religious trial. The Jewish leaders, who were scrambling for ways to explain away the resurrection, didn’t accuse the soldiers of taking the body or allowing it to be stolen.

A third possibility is that the disciples stole the body. The Jewish leaders actually promoted this theory by bribing the Roman guards (Matt. 28:11-15). But there are many reasons the disciples could not have moved Jesus’ body. The tomb was secured by the Roman guard. The stone was large and heavy and could not have been moved without cooperation from the guards. The guards would not have risked their lives to allow the body to be stolen, even for a bribe. If the disciples had bribed the guards and stolen the body, they would not later have suffered beatings, imprisonment and even death to preach Jesus’ resurrection.

A second major evidence for Jesus’ resurrection is his many post-resurrection appearances to the disciples. These happened in varied circumstances to many different people. J. N. D. Anderson, formerly Professor of Oriental Laws and Director of the Institute of Advanced Legal Studies at the University of London, wrote, “The most drastic way of dismissing the evidence would be to say that these stories were mere fabrications, that they were pure lies. But, so far as I know, not a single critic today would take such an attitude. In fact, it would really be an impossible position” (Christianity Today [3/29/68], p. 5). He goes on to give several solid reasons for his assertions.

A third evidence is the changed lives of the many different witnesses. None of them were expecting a resurrection, in spite of Jesus’ repeated predictions of such. They were confused, frightened, and depressed after the crucifixion. At the first reports of the resurrection from the women who saw Jesus, the disciples were skeptical. But they all became convinced witnesses to the point that they boldly proclaimed Christ to the very audience that had crucified him. Many endured persecution and martyrdom. What could account for such dramatic change, if not the fact that they had seen the risen Jesus Christ?

A fourth evidence (and my list is far from exhaustive) is the unique person of Jesus Christ. Study the Gospel accounts of who Jesus was, what he taught, the miracles he performed, and the prophecies he fulfilled. As C. S. Lewis observed in Mere Christianity, no mere man, let alone a great religious teacher, could have said and done the things that Jesus did. The only options, said Lewis, are that Jesus is a liar, a lunatic, or Lord of all. Although formerly an atheist, Lewis became convinced of the third option.

If you’ve never done so, Easter would be a good time to go to a church that proclaims Christ’s resurrection. Read the Gospels. Carefully weigh the evidence. Your conclusion may, as it did with the apostles and as it has done with many millions since, dramatically change your life.

Which brings me to my point, as Christians what is our chief responsibility?

To tell people about Jesus.

To many Christians are more concerned about social injustices than the message of the gospel.

The national commander of the salvation army publicly said he didn’t care what the bible said, that the salvation army would end poverty and homelessness and the poor.

Wow, wasn’t it Jesus that said there were always going to be poor people?

Now don’t get me wrong the bible says we are to care for the poor and the less fortunate. But not at the cost of having a social cause first and the gospel message first.

In my first church we had a widow with 12 kids, her basic means of making money was making tortillas and tamales. When I went over to her house to visit and pray. I prayed that God would give her wealth (yeah, I was that green and stupid). She stopped and said no pastor don’t pray that prayer for me. If I had wealth I wouldn’t pray every day and depend on God to feed 13 people every day. (lesson learned)

The blessing of salvation is what changes people not a social gospel.

Well that’s my rant, I haven’t done one in a long while so you’ll just have to forgive me.

God bless from

 Remember Steve H in prayer, strength and encouragement.

Pray for Pastor Paul K, refreshment, a new anointing the VA is still saying that the two cysts on his pancreas are not cancer.

Remember Caliste and Stephanie, no fear, and encouragement, and divine healing.

Ricky R, another day of sobriety.

Pray for the salvation of Barbara D, Mona R, the Perales family.

Remember Bill Warneke in prayer, chronic neck pain, depression and the beginnings of Parkinson’s.

Pray for Fred N, advanced dementia. (medical tidbit for you, technically they can’t tell if you have Alzheimer’s until they autopsy your brain.) that’s why you have to be careful about what medication they give you if it’s a wrong diagnosis.


May 20, 2019


“I find therefore the law of my nature to be that when I desire to do what is right, evil is lying in ambush for me” (Rom. 7.21, Weymouth Translation.).

  Struggle in yourself, and be trapped; rest in Him, and be free!

Many Christians keep themselves in a perpetual torment through hoping they will get into a situation where they can enjoy a better (and easier) Christian life. They feel enclosed in a net of circumstances from which they cannot escape. They are so wearied and baffled and beaten by the continuous pressure about them that they wish and itch for things to be different, quite sure that if they were only different Christ would be more real. It has not dawned upon them that at the heart of these very circumstances they are to find the Lord Jesus, find His grace sufficient, find the life more abundant.

You might be secretly attempting to correct and improve yourself, and suffering a good deal of private vexation and disappointment on account of the futility of your struggles. It was at a moment when I was utterly discouraged, and ready to give up the whole thing in complete despair, that the Father showed me how I was attempting to work upon the old material which He could only condemn.

My Father was not looking for any good in me, and had the Lord Jesus Christ before Him, the perfect and infinitely acceptable Object of His heart. And I, in my nothingness, had ceased to look for good in myself, and began tasting the deep joy of being in Christ, and free to have Him as my Object; while as to life, I entered in some degree into the blessedness of knowing that it was ‘not I, but Christ liveth in me.’

  “For to me to live is Christ “(Phil 1:21).

We need to remember that when God looks upon us He sees His Blessed Son and we get the benefit of His love and pleasure. It is difficult to understand that the redeemed are a pleasure to God.

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Remember Steve H in prayer, strength and encouragement.

Randy H, a financial blessing is needed.

Pray for Pastor Paul K, refreshment, a new anointing the VA is still saying that the two cysts on his pancreas are not cancer.

Remember Caliste and Stephanie, no fear, and encouragement, and divine healing.

Ricky R, another  day of sobriety.

Our spiritual side

May 19, 2019

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22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT. Contrasted to the acts of the sinful nature is a single-minded lifestyle called “the fruit of the Spirit.” This is produced in God’s children as they allow the Spirit to so direct and influence their lives that they destroy sin’s power, especially the acts of the sinful nature, and walk in fellowship with God (2Co 6:6; Eph 4:2-3; 5:9; Col 3:12-15; 2Pe 1:4-9). The fruit of the Spirit includes:

(1) “Love” (Gk agape, i.e., a caring for and seeking the highest good of another

person without motive of personal gain (Rm 5:5; 1 cor 13; Eph 5:2; Col 3:14);

(2) “Joy” (greek chara, ), i.e., the feeling of gladness based on the love, grace, blessings,

promises and nearness of God that belong to those who believe in Christ (Ps 119:16; 2 cor

6:10; 12:9; 1 pet  1:8; );

(3) “Peace” (Gk eirene) i.e., the quietness of heart and mind based on the knowledge

that all is well between the believer and his or her heavenly Father (Ro 15:33;

iTh 5:23; heb 13:20);

(4) “Patience” (gk ,makrothumia), i.e., endurance, long-suffering; being slow to anger

or despair (Eph 4:2; 2Ti 3:10; heb 12:1);

(5) klndness” (Gk chrestotes), i.e., not wanting to hurt anyone or cause them pain

(Eph 4:32; Col 3:12; 1 pet 2:3);

(6) “Goodness” (gk agathosunë) , i.e., zeal for truth and righteousness and a hatred of

evil; it can be expressed in acts of kindness (Lk 7:37-50) or in rebuking and correcting

evil (Mt 21:12-13);

(7) “Faithfulness” (Gk pistis), i.e., firm and unswerving loyalty to a person to whom

one is united by promise, commitment, trustworthiness and honesty (Mt 23:23; rom 3:3;

1 tim 6:12; 2Ti 2:2; 4:7; titus 2:10);

(8) “Gentleness” (Gk prautes), is., restraint coupled with strength and courage; it

describes a person who can be angry when anger is needed and humbly submissive when

submission is needed (2Ti 2:25; 1 pet 3:15; for gentleness in Jesus, compare Mt 11:29

with Mt 23 and Mk 3:5; in Paul, compare 2Co 10:1 with 10:4-6 and Gal 1:9; in Moses,

compare Num 12:3 with Ex 32:19-20);

(9) “Self-control” (grk egkrateia), i.e-, mastering one’s own desires and passions, including

faithfulness to one’s marriage vows; also purity (1 Co 7:9; 9:25; titus 1:8; 2:5).

Paul’s final comment on the fruit of the Spirit indicates that there are no restrictions

to the lifestyle indicated here. Christians can —in fact, must —practice these virtues over

and over again; they will never discover a law prohibiting them from living according to

these principles.

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Questions, comments, prayer requests to the email address.

Pray for Steve H, feeling overwhelmed

Pray for Sheila, not feeling to well.

Pray for Caliste and Stephanie, divine healing is their only chance since they both have inoperable brain tumors.

Ricky r, 34 days sober

Dave and Linda, new friends we met today, fellow trikers.

Remember Jim H, that lawsuit never happened but brought back painful memories

Remember to pray for those on our salvation list.